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Attacked.

Something most unpleasant occurred today, and I’m really stuck on processing it. Part of me thinks I am being a sensitive Sally and I need to let it go, but another part of me just won’t quit analyzing.

I belong to a number of mailing lists and whatnot (in and out of work) for interests such as martial arts, Shiba Inus, and GLBT matters. Someone posted on the GLBT list a link regarding Wal-mart’s new alliance with a gay group and its desire to court the Gay Dollar.

(So, full partial disclosure here: I used to work for Wally World, and I was run out of town on a rail for being gay, and having a relationship with someone with whom I worked. And before you think “fraternization”, we were peers in terms of job level.)

One lone respondent thought it was a positive thing; everyone else bashed the move by Wal-Mart as self-serving and not based on any real desire for outreach. In a blink, a zillion responses began to fly about how:

1. Wal-mart is way late to the party, in terms of trying to make nice with us gay folk

2. They are far from ethical, if all the various lawsuits and allegations of corruption are to be believed

3. Their unwillingness to insure all of their workers

And a few hundred other things. I chimed in and posted an abbreviated version of what happened to me. For the first time in a long, long time, I came to regret that decision almost immediately.

My response relating to my specific experience and those of others that I was aware of did not get a response immediately. But the one pro-Wal Mart guy, we’ll call him Mr. Combative, did reply and basically said:

So you’re saying the entire company is homophobic and hates gays?

Huh? Not at all what I said. I reiterated that my experience was specific to my store and the experiences of those I knew, but that I lean towards believing that as a whole, Wal-mart is not progressive.

More sturm and drang about how Wal-Mart does or doesn’t help poor people. Mr. Combative, a libertarian, shot back (at me, for some reason) that Wal-Mart helps the poor. I replied that they have a tendency to not insure people who are otherwise forced to seek state or federal aid, despite their gainful employment.

So then by your logic, poor people should NOT be allowed to work there.

My head about exploded. I’m still pondering how he got that result from my saying that Wal-Mart ought to offer insurance to all its employees. I never said that, I replied, and Mr. Combative’s retort was “Yes you did”, and again he reiterated the above quote. By this time, the thread had really deteriorated and devolved into him doing a lot of subtle name-calling, and people flaming him in response. Over and over.

I finally had to stop when he said this about my experience:

So since some asshole was mean to you, you’re going to paint the whole company as evil and whine about how they did you wrong.

I don’t think I’ve ever had my words so incredibly twisted in a ‘civil discourse’. ‘Some asshole’ wasn’t mean to me, I was forced out of my job for being gay and questioned by my store manager like I was a criminal. My girlfriend and I were alleged to have done the following on the job:

-had sex in the store
-taken naked pictures of said sex and put them together into a photo album
-had phone sex
-done PDA-type things in front of coworkers

And on and on. All baseless, false accusations by people who were fundamentalist freaks and totally appalled by two women being together. If that happened to me now, I would fight back and take the company to court, if I had to. But I was very young and all I wanted was to disappear. So rather than be fired or stay in the town, I arranged for a transfer to a store in Atlanta, GA. It was granted unusually fast.

Even though I left the e-firestorm that was brewing, I remained stung and angry with Mr. Combative. He, in turn, kept lashing out at anyone and everyone because he felt he was being picked on. He called most of us bigots or worse. People began unsubscribing from the list because of the vitriol.

So why can’t I let it go? It’s hours later and I am still puzzling over his stunning re-write of anything and everything I said, especially when I was not even addressing his primary point, but merely adding to the discussion with a personal experience. It left me feeling very drained and disheartened.

I understand being passionate and having a minority opinion. But being rude, baiting, and outright attacking of those who disagree with you doesn’t do anything positive. Ever. It just silences people who have something valuable to add, or who would’ve gotten something valuable out of a civil discussion.

None of that happened today. And I felt myself drawn to falling to his angry, grating level- but didn’t. Still, I walked a fine line and after few subsequent posts, I truly regretted responding at all.

Hours later, here I sit, still salty and mad. It’s dumb to be mad at someone so asinine, petty, and obviously devoid of civility. I’m hoping that venting this will divest me of some of the negative energy. When I have discussions, virtual or otherwise with people -especially fellow GLBT- I’m looking for harmony and insight, not dischord. It’s amazing how one flailing and careless voice can shatter any possibility of learning from each other.

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posted by Lachlan in GLBT,The Devil Duck Tales and have Comments (9)

9 Responses to “Attacked.”

  1. It’s natural to be upset in that situation, Lachlan, and to hang on to it for quite a while.

    Just be careful not to let the suspicion of someone who looks like another Mr. Combative change your way of dealing with people.

    You can’t control others, but you can always control yourself — and if you manage to do that, words will sting, things will hurt, but you’ll get past it.

  2. Pat says:

    I don’t blame you for being so PO’d. Some people seem to get off on twisting a persons words around.
    Wal-Mart is running scared and they are trying to get every dollar they can.
    They don’t give a rats ass about anything but the dollar.

  3. Erica says:

    He personally attacked you. And he’s so obviously wrong. Of course you’re still mad. I would be.

    Tangentially related: I hear Bentonville, AK has officially submitted a WNBA franchise application….

  4. Lachlan says:

    Interesting anecdote, Erica. If Bentonville gets a franchise, what would they call it? The Arkansas People Greeters? The Bentonville Smileys? The possibilities boggle the mind.

  5. CGHill says:

    I am generally inclined to defend Wal-Mart (though making false accusations against associates is indefensible by any standards), and it’s obvious that GLBT dollars are worth as much as any other dollars.

    That said, though, I don’t think that the Wally World culture is exactly evolving on its own: they’ve got growth rates to maintain, and ultimately they’ll do what it takes to maintain them, even if it conflicts with the Bentonville Gospel. “Way late to the party” is precisely right.

  6. Lachlan says:

    There have been a lot of reccent things within and without the culture of Wal-Mart that leave me loathe to defend them, CG, but I do understand. And I don’t think they’re wholly evil- not by any means. But they do have some serious internal issues that they need to work out in order to stay profitable. I was/am pleased to see them going into the organics market as a business. Makes sense, and will be good in the long run.

  7. treppenwitz says:

    One of the things that has had me on the verge of closing up my blog on a few occasions is that same twisting/misrepresentation of my words you experienced. It is called a straw man.

    Go here and read what this prick did to you. For some reason understanding the way he got to you will not only untie the knot in your gut… but it will make you better prepared to deal with future fallacious attacks.

  8. dawn says:

    This entry has been eating at me since I saw it pop up in my newsreader a few days ago. I know you. I know you’re not flaming any corporation for the sake of doing so. We are personal bloggers for that reason alone — we are experts on, oh, ourselves. And we share our worldviews based on, gee, our personal experiences. There are plenty of people (Mr. Combative, et al) who get off on attacking the people who spoke from the heart instead of what they would perceive to be a logical place. It’s an uneven battle, apples to oranges blah blah blah. People do that to me sometimes, listing logic and laws and other shit intended just to piss me off. How do you equate their ideals with your feelings? It’s not possible. And only a fool would even try.

    And I get mad as hell, too, because those of us who open our hearts aren’t necessarily expecting praise, but we at the very least require some handling with care. It would have helped you to hear, and I’m going to say it now, that it really sucks what you were put through for absolutely no reason. You did not deserve to have your livelihood taken away simply on baseless assumptions. Doesn’t matter what company it was — it was something you were a part of and you were doing your best at.

    It’s like when segregation by skin color and eventually by gender became unacceptable, the stick-up-their-ass types needed a new group to marginalize. It’s unfair and it sucks, and if we’re collectively NOT incensed over it, then something is wrong with US, not just THEM.

  9. Lachlan says:

    Thanks, Dawn. I appreciate the validation. Because you’re right- I don’t flame unless it’s warranted. I got screwed over big time and they knew it- and they banked on the fact that I wouid not pursue it. Fine. It sucked, it hurt, and it’s one of the only instances in my life where I was truly discriminated against based on my sexuality.

    But to have it thrown back at me the way he did -and as rudely- I was not prepared for it, at all. And I guess I am feeling emotionally fragile enough right now that the words still haven’t fully left me.

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